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You cannot claim the object that you illumine!

by | Jan 28, 2024 | Advaita, Atma Nirvriti, Atmananda, Body, Direct Path, Freedom, I, Mind, Suffering, Upanishad, Vasana

Question:

Ektaji, could you please clarify whether vasanas are a hindrance to freedom?

 

Answer:

Until you consider the body-mind as yours, Vasanas belong to you.

Until Vasanas belong to you, personhood cannot cease.

Until personhood exists, suffering exists.

 

To be free of suffering, be free of personhood.

To be free of personhood, be free of ‘mineness’ to everything including Vasanas.

To be free of mineness, recognize that the body-mind is not ‘I’.

I am the subject and body-mind is the object of my experience.

 

If I am not the body-mind, then what is this ‘I’?

Dive within to find it and see the ‘I-ness’ melt away again and again.

The body-mind is simply an empty shell and I am the light in which it shines.

Yet the I is not a personal-I, it is like a single sunray.

A single ray cannot claim to be the Sun nor can it claim to be the object that it illumines.

 

Dive within and explore – Are you claiming the object that you illumine? You can leave your answer in a comment below. 

 

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4 Comments

  1. Nehal Shah

    For me, In deep dhyana, there is a loss of body and mind consciousness. Sometimes I get visions or called “Jagrut Swapna” in the spiritual realm. I discussed in detail these experiences with the master I was working with. His take was that I am in a state of deep dhyana, but this does not fully qualify as Samadhi.

    Like Sage Patanjali advised the three steps, Dharna, Dhyana and Samadhi.
    So, for folks like me, there are bouts of loss of body consciousness and silencing of ego, aka deep Dhyana. But need to go deeper and increase the duration of this experience.

    To answer Ektajis’s question, can this consciousness claim the object
    In complete stillness, there is nothing to claim. No body, no mind.

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  2. Anuja Rathod

    Dear EKta ji,
    By using a variety of examples you are making it clearer and clearer and helping us experience that subject is way different than object (body-mind) However, it is still “dwaita”
    Looking forward to learning the steps to move from dwaita to adwaita.

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    • Gnyana Sangha

      That can be learned only in immersive Advaita level III sessions with personal mentorship which is not possible in an online post dear.

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  3. Tapasyaa

    “ Yet the I is not a personal-I, it is like a single sunray.
    A single ray cannot claim to be the Sun nor can it claim to be the object that it illumines.”

    Dear Ekthaji.

    This I you are mentioning here – is it the jivatma which is a single ray and not the Sun which is the parmatma?

    I really enjoyed your Diwali talk on -journey within awareness’. I have just stepped out of the matrix, and I lamented why I keep forgetting I am not the ego. Ego is just an I-thought. And thanks for dispelling that issue as it will take a while to get completely settle in awareness. Thst whole talk was amazing as this enlightenment thing is just peace without the ego. Thst is all. There is nothing much to it.

    Once you can acknowledge that the I thought emerges from the mind, it is very clear that the mind lone doesn’t do ll the things we do. For example the body functions on its own the universe on its own. This I thought is not the end all and be all and all power full , we come to know once we know it is just another thought like all other thoughts that come to our mind. So why give it so much significance when we are able to dismiss other thoughts. That was my moment of enlightenment.

    Once you realize this ego is not me, it was very quick to settle on that which is not my ego.

    Thank you !

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